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Irgy wrote: Thanks for the response, but this answer is only going as far as telling me what I already knew. My main purpose was to argue that it should be reconsidered. But, if I accept it as given, the implications still have some uncertainty that I feel is not answered by this reply. Your proposal to reconsider this rule clarification has already been studied by the author before. But the other solutions generated other problems. The choice is therefore the one stated by Sarah. Irgy wrote: Can I confirm then that I can discard card A to pay for another ability on card B, even though I have already activated an ability on card A which will result in card A being discarded, such as described in the example with Endurance? Thereby paying the cost of both cards with just card A. Sarah's last sentence in her rule gives an implicit instruction (which she confirmed to me): the discarding of a played card ONLY occurs during this timing (end of effects or 4B step). Voluntary discarding from another card is prohibited. Irgy wrote: Can I get clarification on what happens if a card is discarded (either to another card's ability, or to text in the consequence step) before all of the effects have been applied? Can the remaining effects still be applied? This case is not possible*. According to Sarah's rule, the played card cannot be absent with its effect not yet applied. The discard arrives after the application of the effects or in 4B step (after ). Irgy wrote: If the answer to the above is that remaining effects cannot be applied, does this also apply to instructions such as blocking the card? Not applicable. Irgy wrote: Can I confirm that Denhom's and Arthen's "Determination" is still discarded during the gear up step, despite that being inconsistent with the statement that " A played card is discarded (if indicated) as soon as all its effects have been used, or otherwise at the end of the complete action resolution sequence."? These 2 cards have a text that applies in priority to Sarah's rule, as required by the golden rule (the card takes precedence over the rule). * In the other answer, you talked about Consequence step : if a ask to discard, you discard. But I think a effect should be write before the "Discard the card" sentence, no ? Which imply that you keep the Consequence in memory until the effect is finish. ==> If you have a specific case, please create a topic : there's maybe an exception but the rule stay valid. I hope that it's more clear now. Posted
Note: In this topic, we use the term “cost” to talk about the inconvenience that a card requires you to pay to use its effect.
This is not the correct definition of Cost in the rule. We have therefore not talked about the cost of an Action. Posted - Edited
jujulautre wrote: Do you have an example of such a card ? We discuss together on Discord about this. But I copy here 2 examples of cards. There are Advanced Skills so I put Medium spoiler tag. 1/ Here, with multiple activation, we should be able to reduce cost by -2-2-2-2... 2/ Here, with multiple activation, we should be able to use 4 or more class icons, over the Max.3 limit. Posted
Hello Marcus,
Welcome here ! The more you will spend "Hope" for some Advanced skills, the more you will have cards that generates bonus with Class icons. And of course, the more you find Items, the more you will have this type of effect. There's a moment (mid-Theart ?) when you should be happy to draw Class icons to activate all your stuff. Posted - Edited
I know.
But if we accept that a effect can be activited several times with a cost (here, discarding of cards), I think that we must accept the same for any effect. Otherwise, we need a rule to explain this difference. And this rule doesn't exist. Posted - Edited
If we hypothesize that a card in Hand can be activated several times, then free cards (which do not need to be blocked or discarded, and remain permanently) could trigger their effects infinitely.
With a cost of 1 another card to discard and with the hand size limit, it's possible. But Infinite activation, it's not. So the hypothesis is false. ==> I think the activation is unique during an action. Posted
The rule is the rule.
Weight must be taken into account. BUT you can choose to play with a roleplaying variation. It's not a big issue. Posted
The Ambush effect versus the Gear step is a known issue, but not easy to fix.
Please consider that there is a "pre-Gear up" step that allows you to select this Purse card and activate its effect to ignore Ambush. Posted - Edited
Je ne suis pas un expert du domaine mais j'ai souvenir de commentaires qui rappelaient, à juste titre, que les Frais de port ne couvrent pas que la logistique de transport, mais aussi le coût du stockage (entrepôts) et de services (lorsque c'est sous-traité comme ici à divers prestataires), plus les assurances.
Peut-être que la situation d'un éditeur en autodiffusion (Boutique SP) n'est pas vraiment comparable à celle d'une boutique en ligne ou d'un site d'occasion qui mutualisent leurs moyens sur une échelle bien plus grosse ? En tout cas, je note tout de même que les FDP sont offerts à partir de 50€ d'achat (boutique SP France). Et ça, c'est plus que correct. Mode Modo : Je me suis permis d'éditer le sujet pour un titre plus parlant je crois. Posted - Edited
Bonjour Chtiteboo01,
Je crois avoir lu ta question sur le groupe Facebook avec ce complément d'information de ta part que je recopie : [Suite à l'action "Echelle"], j’ai bien lu l’encart dans le livre des dialogues. Ça dit de lire un autre dialogue en fonction des objectifs. Comme je l’ai dit j’en ai 5. Donc j’ai lu le dialogue qui correspond. Ensuite ça dit « êtes vous sûr d’aller à la citadelle » ben j’ai dis oui au début j’ai donc pas fait les conséquences de l’échelle et la 2e fois j’ai dis non donc j’ai continué à appliquer l’effet de l’échelle. Ton erreur est lié au texte du paragraphe n° 592 je crois Il se peut aussi que tu es mal interprété le choix de sortir ou non dans le texte : ce n'est pas une consigne d'appliquer le cartouche normal de l'action. Pour être clair, voila ce qu'il faut comprendre :
Est-ce bon pour toi ? Je te suggère de considérer ton scénario réussi et de lire l'épilogue B dès maintenant. Posted
Braxus wrote: You return the game to the state as it was before your first threat. That's right, Cidic7777 See the FAQ : https://the7thcitadel.seriouspoulp.com/en/resources/faqs/170/#rules Posted
Bonjour Yves
Comme je l'ai indiqué ici, le statut [confirmé] ne présage pas forcément de la mise en ligne d'un errata. Typiquement, lorsqu'il s'agit d'une typo qui n'a pas ou peu d'incidence sur le jeu, la correction sera pris en compte uniquement pour une réédition du jeu. Tu peux écouter Bruno en parler brièvement dans son interview (lien horodaté vers le passage en question) Pour cette carte 110 en particulier, je ne sais pas ce qui sera décidé cependant. Posted
Je confirme que chez moi, l'application installée fonctionne toujours mais que je ne trouve plus l'application dans Play store via la gestion de mes applis, ni via le lien direct
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.seriouspoulp.the7thcontinent Je fais remonter l'info, Revonsdebou. Tu peux aussi utiliser le formulaire de SAV si tu le souhaites. Posted
Sorry for the mistake in my update news.
Only the A0439 [050] has an errata. A0663 [199] is correct in the english version of the game. Posted
Bonjour Henkin
Je vais remonter ta proposition. Mais je crois qu'elle sera refusé pour 3 raisons que je trouve légitime :
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