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For the first time ever, i feel that 7C has maliciously lied to me, kicked me in the testicles, and laughed at me.

Full details are in this BGG thread:

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1841684/

And i'll summarize here:

card A0857 (#360), otherwise known as the , tells the user to .

Card # is a 100% perfect, unambiguous match for those instructions, so i , but that results (after "waiting" via saving and loading the game) in a card which tells me that i .

Two users on BGG suggest that there is another location (near where i started my session this evening) which is also a match, but it cannot possibly be a better match for . Grrrrrr!!!

Maybe .

Ignoring the pun altogether (though it's yet another reason which this location is a better possible match for the given hint text than any other place can possibly be), the dictionary definition of is , which is a classic hallmark of a .

If the result of the card makes it , the player should not get kicked in the balls for not knowing that in advance - the hint is followed based on what the player knows in advance, and the given hint is a 100% perfect, unambiguous match (and the pun seems to be there to make it a 150% match).

If this were a case where a player needs to expend only 5 or 10 minutes of effort before getting kicked in the balls, i wouldn't be all that upset about it, but it's a case of the hint text telling the player unambiguously where to go and what to do, and then, after the player spends 2 hours getting there and doing it, the game kicks the player in the balls and laughs at him. That's downright evil, and not in a "ha, ha, we got you!" kind of way. It undermines the player's trust in all future hints provided by the game. Every single hint, from this point on, will be viewed as unreliable.

"The killer wears a mustache".

"Wait Jean-Luc gots a mustache, he IS the killer ! Burn him !!!"

......

It's not because there is a match (as perfect as it seems to be) that this is the only/good/better solution...

The solution revealed on BGG by other players is in no way a better match for the given flavor/hint text.

The given text is not merely a "good" match, it's a perfect, 100% unambiguous match. That's what pisses me off about this.

One of the places has and is a cross-junction between several path.
The other place is . Just some seagulls.
Knowing that, the seconde place match better.

You should be amused by this subtle trap. I was (because I also make the mistake) !

i disagree. First, the dictionary definition of counts only people, and are not "people". Secondly, if there are seagulls then that location cannot be (because seagulls live only near large bodies of water), and the hint specifically says .



i spent two full hours working towards that specific spot only to use that item, and when i got there it told me that the hint was, in effect, lying to me. i am not the slighted bit amused.

Your review is writed. Some players gave you a different point of view. Some others maybe thinks the same as you. And future potential pledgers will be able to read you.

I'm just sad about your big frustration.
I hope that you won't find/live a similar situation later in the game (if you continue to play).

i consider the current hint text on this seed to be a bug. Seagulls do not live in places, but a is an place.

jeez.. I guess you should sew them for trapping you...

I think this is a "language issue". I mean in french the trap is perfect, they don't mention "arid" because deserted and desert are the same word in french. So the trap is harder to set in english i guess.

But I'm sure you can get over it .

Nonetheless, things are not always the way they seems, and a higher perspective is sometimes needed. You get trapped and so what ? Maybe next time you'll not act with so much haste.

And maybe it is the exact spot they wanted you to plant it.

let say a bottle of poison has "drink me" on it. If you drink it and believe everything that is wrote....

Now you've learned and you won't do it again.

So, yes, the hint text is downright wrong in English. This is a bug. If indeed the place with seagulls is the "correct"/intended place for the seed then the seed's English hint text is a downright lie.



The lesson this teaches the player is that time-intensive side quests lead only to doom and destruction, making them completely unattractive.

Ok sir. You've dug a pretty good grave for yourself. Are you willing to accept a logical argument for why you are wrong and the game did not lie to you?



The reasons you've given are assumptions, formed by you, from knowledge outside the game. luckily, there's a clue you've missed that clears everything up and makes the correct choice quite apparent.

If you look at the back of both cards

I think it's pretty clear which choice is correct. Happy exploring!

Sorry to sgbeal but I don't see the validity of this as a "bug" at all. I don't know if you will read the responses here, but maybe someone else will be confused by your reasoning, so I post my thoughts.



I think it rather seems that you are the one "downright wrong" and that it is a "downright lie" that seagulls don't live in arid places.

Sandy beaches and neighboring dunes are commonly considered arid. If you need something to convince you of this I think you could try just googling "arid beaches", "arid coastal cliffs" or even "arid environment seabirds". I have many times visited arid places with an abundance of seabirds.

Secondly, if more is needed, "deserted" has a marked nuance of "a place where people [or other phenomena] have been before but has now left" rather than "a place where there are no people". To desert is to leave something, to be deserted is to have been left by something. Of course a short dictionary description does not tell you the full meaning of the world but just a short description of one or a few of the most commonly used meanings. You could have different opinions about this, but for me I would consider a ruin a much better match for a deserted place than a necropolis.

So I find the texts match up fine with the mechanisms and there really is nothing wrong here, sorry that you didn't enjoy getting confused but that is one of the appeals of this kind of game to me, sometimes the game outwits you (and sometimes it seems you even outwit yourself!).

I think a bit more politeness or research could be proper before venting such anger and frustration here, but to each his own of course. Have a good game! :)