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Consider this case:
One of Lovecraft's skill cards gives him ( ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() May Lovecraft choose to fail at the second skill even if he has the first one in hand? Posté
"May" is writed in the rulebook.
![]() "Page 12, 3.Result a écrit : Each player involved in the action may apply the effects of So, yes you can choose to fail the action by no using your skill card. ![]() ![]() T7Continent : ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() T7Citadel : ![]() Posté
The wording on the card is:
"The following effect applies as long as you have this in hand" Since cards override the rulebook, it's not clear whether usage of such a card is truly optional ("may") or required. Posté - Edité
Valid argument.
I ask Bruno to check this question (but he's at the GenCon today ^^). ![]() ![]() T7Continent : ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() T7Citadel : ![]() Posté
Can I ask why you'd want to fail an action? Just curious, I haven't used Frankenstein so I'm not familiar with how his skills work. :)
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Ren3 a écrit : Can I ask why you'd want to fail an action? Just curious, I haven't used Frankenstein so I'm not familiar with how his skills work. :) Lovecraft =/= Frankenstein ![]() I think you can choose to apply or not all effects from your hand ... So you can choose to do not apply them. 7/12 ![]() 7 ![]() ![]() Armaggedon en cours ! ![]() ![]() Posté
Ren3 a écrit : Can I ask why you'd want to fail an action? Just curious, I haven't used Frankenstein so I'm not familiar with how his skills work. :) In this particular case, failing means you gain an XP and success lets you spend your XPs. Thus success and failure are valuable at different times. ImDarKK a écrit : I think you can choose to apply or not all effects from your hand ... So you can choose to do not apply them. That's the real question: this skill (quoted above) is worded such that it's not optional, and cards trump the rulebook (which claims that playing skill cards is optional). We'll have to wait on Bruno for the official answer, but he's off at GenCon. Posté
sgbeal a écrit :
Thanks! That makes sense. I did run into another example today -- an action where you have to draw a lot of cards and if you get at least one star you get a negative status, if you fail nothing happens. I also had one of Keelan's "as long as this card is in your hand..." skills which is similar because it says "-1 ![]() ![]() ![]() Posté
Ping. A reminder to Firebird to please ask Bruno whether effects provided by cards which say "The following effect applies as long as you have this in hand" are voluntary or mandatory.
There's an FAQ entry for this thread's main question now, but it doesn't address that specific corner case. Posté
Ping statistics for BrunoS :
Packets : Sent = a lot, Receive = a few, Lost = none but KS2 in approch ! ![]() There are several topics about rules that Bruno have to check, but it seems he has just enough time to valid/invalid the errors. I should write him a summary of the requests to save him time, but I have quite limited time myself. We'll work on it! ![]() ![]() T7Continent : ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() T7Citadel : ![]() Posté
sgbeal a écrit : Ping. A reminder to Firebird to please ask Bruno whether effects provided by cards which say "The following effect applies as long as you have this in hand" are voluntary or mandatory. Hi, Sorry for the delay. Literally hundreds of emails to answer everyday. You can choose not to use Lovecraft's Skill. Therefore sentence should read: "You may apply the following effect as long as you have this in hand". |
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