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Firebird a écrit : Could you please give us where you read this typo ? i no longer have the card numbers readily available, but here's a photo of the top parts of each card: 
ogeert a écrit : This is true if you see a That explains it. The "otherwise" applies to whether the number has a  , and not to the "if the card is not available" part. My wife and i both spent several minutes pondering that rule and both of us parsed the "otherwise" as applying to the "if the card is not available" condition.Thank you for the clarification!
Firebird a écrit : You say : Step 2 explicitly specifies only cost-modifying effects. Quoting page 11: Each player involved in the action may apply the effects of one or more cards from their hand, of one or more Item cards from their inventory used during step 1 (Item), of one or more Permanent event cards attached to the Terrain card their figure is standing on, and/or of one or more Quest item cards, in order to decrease the number of cards to be drawn (Emphasis added.) Step 3 says: Each player involved in the action may apply the effects of one or more cards from their hand, of one or more Item cards from their inventory used during step 1 (Item), of one or more Permanent event cards attached to the Terrain card their figure is standing on, and/or of one or more Quest item cards, in order to obtain additional successes (Emphasis added.) Bird Call ostensibly allows us to use the effects of other cards in the corresponding steps, depending on whether they're cost-reduction effects or Success-generating effects. Its own other-card-modifying effect, however, is not really covered by any of the action resolution timing rules, which leaves me even less certain of its interpretation than i was initially. Firebird a écrit : And I think that you can find other types of effects that relate to other steps (although the rule is not explicit about this). i can't say for sure :/. The timing of when exactly we activate the card-modifying effect of Bird Call is effectively undefined. i'm ashamed that that disturbs me as much as it does, but that's just how i'm built.
This is a re-formulation of a post over on BGG, re-posted here with the hope that we'll get an official answer for this...
Bird Call Advanced Skill (A0138) has a  hunting icon which says: and/or you may use cards that have the following icon (brown Music).This card's effect is applied during Step 3 (Result) of Action Resolution, whereas Items are "used" in Step 1. That timing implies that Bird Call's effect does not reduce the durability of cards with the Music modifier which Bird Call "hijacks" "may use cards" "use" durability of items activated by Bird Call is reduced because they are "used" What is the correct official interpretation: 1) Durability of items triggered by Bird Call ARE NOT reduced. 2) Durability of items triggered by Bird Call ARE reduced. :-? Edit: the question, upon closer examination, really boils down to: At what step(s) of Action Resolution may an Action Modifier be applied if it is neither an Energy modifier  nor a Success modifier  ?An answer to that question would, i believe, resolve my uncertainty about this particular card. There appears to be no explicit rules which allow for any type of Action Modifier which is not either an Energy modifier or a Success modifier.
i have come across white action icons with Mastery icons to their left:
 i see two different interpretations for those: 1) The action automatically provides/includes Mastery at the given level. 2) The action cannot be attempted unless at least that many levels of Mastery are provided by a character attempting the action. Which interpretation is correct? |
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)" should be applied during Step 1, as a rule modifier allowing another icon than hunting, but without changing the rule on the cost of durability.